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"You must work hard"
by Separation of Powers inhad the opportunity or should i say "chore" to goto the ca a couple weeks back...haven't had the chance to post this... do giving the final talk about "work," you know, "god and christ keep working and so should you..." what kinda blew my mind is the co gives the talk before him and says, "i know you are tired, tired of this system of things, but we can keep going can't we?
we know it's just around the corner.
" the brothers all clap, cause he's like an old grandpa type...the do then comes up and starts talking about how much people are slowing down, he talks about the "snares" that satan is using and the need to keep busy, he then states, "brothers, you must work hard.
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"You must work hard"
by Separation of Powers inhad the opportunity or should i say "chore" to goto the ca a couple weeks back...haven't had the chance to post this... do giving the final talk about "work," you know, "god and christ keep working and so should you..." what kinda blew my mind is the co gives the talk before him and says, "i know you are tired, tired of this system of things, but we can keep going can't we?
we know it's just around the corner.
" the brothers all clap, cause he's like an old grandpa type...the do then comes up and starts talking about how much people are slowing down, he talks about the "snares" that satan is using and the need to keep busy, he then states, "brothers, you must work hard.
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Had the opportunity or should I say "chore" to goto the CA a couple weeks back...Haven't had the chance to post this..
DO giving the final talk about "work," You know, "God and Christ keep working and so should you..." What kinda blew my mind is the CO gives the talk before him and says, "I know you are tired, tired of this system of things, but we can keep going can't we? We know it's just around the corner." The brothers all clap, cause he's like an old grandpa type...The DO then comes up and starts talking about how much people are slowing down, He talks about the "snares" that Satan is using and the need to keep busy, he then states, "Brothers, you must work hard. Only those who are working will have the opportunity to survive the coming end of this system, that is oh so close."
Kinda sounded like the counselors to Rehoboam. The CO-"ease off the pressure, you can make it!" The DO-"Hey what are you doing slowing down! Let's get a move on!"
Funny, which one should they listen to?
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I should'nt let them get to me, but.......
by quellycatface in.
one day, i'll have the courage to ask why she looks at me like that..
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Indoctrination into the group included believing that the group was special. So, when you are treated poorly by someone who is still in the group, it will make you feel bad until you finally break away from the indoctrination. When you realize that they are not special, just simple minded people willing to risk their lives and happiness for an expectation founded by another group of simpletons, then it won't hurt as bad. In fact, it will move you toward compassion, kinda like when you see a movie like Titanic. You know the ulitmate outcome of those on the boat, they will die, lives unfulfilled, dreams lost to the vastness of the deep, that will be the lot for those you have left behind. You have found a spot on the lifeboat...it is called hope, it is called purpose. Don't take it for granted. Grasp it with both hands and complete your journey, for this is all we truly know.
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Update on my fade
by Jon Preston ini apologize for the strangeness of my topics of late.
im in antight spot.
i havent been to a meeting for over a month...wife is sick again and wants me to attend but i am having the most difficilt time getting motivated to go...i mean every molecule in my body wants to stay home..but ive got an elder friend texting to ask if we are going and another asking for our service reports....grrr.
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Ignore requests.
Get occupied in something else.
Does your wife have non witness family?
Does she have any outside interests?
Distraction is the key.
Just like when you were in...The ORG keeps you distracted from the fact that the end hasn't come and may never come with the constant meetings, service, hall cleanings, etc.
Do the same in reverse
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Pondering The Increase in Memorial Partakers
by piztjw init has been discussed in other threads, but in pondering what the real reason for the increase in partakers is i have a personal theory.. this theory would naturally have to be based on ones actually believing the bible, and not just simply what the wt&t$ dictates that one must believe.. when jesus made a covenent with the apostles at the last supper to rule with him in heaven, is it possible that that covenent was with them only?
jw's will say that it also extended to all the rest of the 144,000. but nowhere is there a lliteral claim of only 144,000 in the bible.
in revelation, a book that jw's claim is filled with symbolism, that number is suddenly claimed by them to be literal.
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Delusion perhaps?
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Praying To Jehovah To Find Something Lost
by minimus inmy mom begged me to find some wt.
(rag) literature that she had been looking for, for 2 days.
she had been praying to jehovah to find it and she figured he used me to quickly locate it..
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Prayer...yes prayer. I am glad that the powers above intervened for her. I just feel sorry for that child whose parents prayed that he wouldn't die of cancer and yet...he did. where was their answer?
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Elder friend is reading 1984 from George Orwell - How to make him relate?
by alonein321 inhey everyone.
i have and elder friend, he is 33, and he likes to test his faith by reading some science books.
he didn't wake up yet, but he is reading 1984 from george orwell now.
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The simple act of reading the book is all that he will need if he is open to questioning. There are few books that address the type of authoritarian structure that is visible now in the ORG.
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Judge Over-Rules Parents To Allow Blood for Baby Boy
by tim hooper indoctors from birmingham children's hospital applied for an order to give the baby boy blood transfusions.
a high court judge has said a baby boy can undergo blood transfusions despite his parents' objections.. the baby has complex heart disease but his parents, who are jehovah's witnesses, said they could not consent to a transfusion on religious grounds.. birmingham children's hospital had applied for an order to proceed with cardiac surgery and transfusions.. the judge, mr justice keehan, heard the boy had no "long-term prospect of survival" without the surgery.. 'best interests'.
the boy was born at the university hospital of coventry and warwickshire on 7 february and placed in special care.
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Thank GOD!!!!
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Elders and DF'ing
by Crazyguy into those that have been df'd do they elders imply or tell you that you no longer have a relationship with god and you can't even pray to him until your back in?
i was watching a video and the former jw was implying this.
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JW = relationship with God. No JW = no relationship. There is no "implied" comment. It is a cold hard fact! (at least to them).
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Where are the scriptures to back up the highlighted assertions?
by Brainfloss in9 through his son, jehovah established an arrangement here on earth that works in harmony with the invisible part of the organization.
why is a visible arrangement needed to accomplish the work described at matthew 24:14?
consider three reasons.. 10 first, jesus stated that this preaching work would take his disciples to the most distant part of the earth.
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Who needs Scriptures...there is EVIDENCE! Last year, Witnesses spent 1,841,180,235 hours in service! That is all you need to know! It doesn't matter that this equates to 10's of thousands of hours per possible baptism...organized? Hardly!
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